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        <h1>Reclaiming the Bill of Rights, Building a Movement</h1>
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           <p>Published in the winter 2002-2003
                issue of <em><br />
            By What Authority</em>, the journal of the<br />
         <a href="http://poclad.org/" target="_blank">Program on Corporations,
         Law and Democracy.</a></p>
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        <p> Jeff Milchen is the founder of ReclaimDemocracy.org, a young but increasingly 
        influential organization in the Democracy Movement. Molly Morgan interviewed 
        him about their strategy and campaigns.</p>
        <p><strong>BWA</strong>: What is the focus and mission of ReclaimDemocracy.org's 
          work?</p>
        <p><strong>Jeff Milchen</strong>: Well, our tagline is &quot;Restoring 
          Citizen Authority Over Corporations,&quot; and like POCLAD we focus 
          on effecting long-term structural change that cuts across many different 
          issues. An ongoing part of our work is delivering radically democratic 
          perspectives through mass media to people who don't necessarily 
          consider themselves radical or even progressive. We dissect current 
          issues to expose how problems are rooted in the illegitimate power wielded 
          by corporations and moneyed interests, and we try to show clearly how 
          changing the system could directly improve people's lives. </p>
        <p>Another major component of our work is building concrete tools for 
          change and replicable models that decentralize power so that average 
          citizens and communities have more influence in the decisions that affect 
          them. We think the more people experience democracy close to home, the 
          more likely they are to value it and work to expand it. People across 
          the political spectrum who may disagree on outcomes still have common 
          goals in creating a more democratic society, but their differences may 
          hide those shared interests. One reason is that so much of the &quot;news&quot; 
          is alienating and disempowering -- it obscures the work and impact 
          of ordinary citizens while exaggerating the power of those in official 
          positions. </p>
        <p><strong>BWA:</strong> How do you get your message out?</p>
        <p><strong>JM:</strong> Our media outreach has focused primarily on print 
          media plus some talk radio programs. We've had significant success 
          -- from op-eds in mainstream newspapers like the Washington Post, 
          Newsday, and the San Francisco Chronicle to strategy and solution-oriented 
          pieces in publications like The Ecologist, Black World Today, and major 
          Spanish-language newspapers like La Opinion and La Prensa. As an example 
          of how revoking illegitimate corporate power concerns people across 
          the political spectrum, our work has been written up in business magazines 
          and conservative tabloids like American Free Press as well as progressive 
          magazines like Utne Reader.</p>
        <p><strong>BWA:</strong> Describe your campaign to revoke corporate free 
          speech.</p>
        
      <p><strong>JM:</strong> We're helping to instigate what we hope will 
        be the broad national coalition necessary to put this issue on the radar 
        screen. We believe that corporate free speech is a desecration of our 
        Constitution and that this is an especially good time to generate public 
        debate about it because a case called Nike v. Kasky stands an excellent 
        chance of being reviewed by the Supreme Court in 2003. The case centers 
        around the issue of commercial speech -- a category of communication 
        created by the Court.</p>
        <p>The Supreme Court is a political institution that responds to major 
          shifts in public opinion. Our goal is to use Kasky to make the issue 
          of corporate free speech a high-profile controversy, framed as a matter 
          of justice, like other struggles for civil rights. We need huge numbers 
          of citizens generating pressure on our courts and influencing their 
          thinking, and it's a challenge because the injustice is less direct 
          and obvious than for other abuses of our rights. </p>
        <p>Our initial focus in this effort is on the American Civil Liberties 
          Union (ACLU). We want to persuade their leaders that their mission to 
          defend civil liberties for human beings is undermined by their consistent 
          support of corporate &quot;rights.&quot; This is especially disturbing 
          when our civil liberties are under siege by the Bush Administration 
          and Congress. The ACLU also expends resources to oppose most significant 
          campaign reform efforts by supporting the doctrine that spending money 
          to influence elections is protected &quot;free speech.&quot;</p>
        <p>Our position is that all communication by for-profit corporations is 
          inherently commercial speech and that no constitutional protection exists 
          -- it's up to We the People, working through our democratic 
          institutions, to decide what privileges commercial entities should enjoy. 
          The Bill of Rights was intended to protect only human beings, but previous 
          Courts have claimed that speech itself is protected by the First Amendment 
          -- that a thing is protected rather than the right of a person 
          -- which goes against any reasonable interpretation of the Bill 
          of Rights. </p>
        <p><strong>BWA: </strong>Wouldn't revoking corporate free speech 
          diminish the First Amendment and limit opportunities for organizations 
          like the ACLU and ReclaimDemocracy.org to speak?</p>
        <p><strong>JM: </strong>No. The Supreme Court has distinguished explicitly 
          between advocacy groups and profit-centered corporations in two cases: 
          Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce (1990) and FEC v. Massachusetts 
          Citizens For Life (1986). In FEC, the majority said: &quot;Massachusetts 
          Citizens For Life was formed to disseminate political ideas, not to 
          amass capital. The resources it has available are not a function of 
          its success in the economic marketplace, but its popularity in the political 
          marketplace.&quot;</p>
        <p>It's worth noting that in colonial times, the word &quot;speech&quot; 
          often described discourse -- an interactive communication, as in, 
          &quot;I'd like to have a speech with you.&quot; The Constitution 
          writers likely wanted to protect dialogue, not just broadcasting one's 
          views. How can people dialogue with something like the Nike Corporation, 
          which has no mouth or ears, let alone a mind? </p>
        <p>Restoring a reasonable definition of free speech would actually amplify 
          the voice of small organizations like ours with a genuine human constituency. 
          Individual citizens and grassroots organizations can never speak as 
          loudly with our own voices as corporations can with the unlimited amplification 
          of money. But if our relative impact corresponded to the quality of 
          our ideas and how effectively we worked to promote them, rather than 
          how much money we spend, we'd have a very different country. </p>
        <p>Of course, corporate speech has been key to amassing wealth and power 
          for corporations, and their hirelings will fight to retain it. Public 
          relations departments will churn out messages framing corporations as 
          the defenders of liberty. Corporate lawyers will argue about slippery 
          slopes and the freedom of speech being sacrosanct. They'll say 
          even speech we don't like needs to be protected and use examples 
          of unpopular speakers like the Ku Klux Klan. Our work is to properly 
          frame the debate: the Constitution protects the rights of human beings, 
          not things, and only people have rights to free speech. The popularity 
          of a speaker is not an issue, but the speaker's humanity is!</p>
        <p><strong>BWA:</strong> How does corporate free speech affect public 
          policy?</p>
        <p><strong>JM: </strong>Virtually every issue of consequence is affected 
          by the illegitimate influence of corporations derailing democracy, but 
          here's one: both of the dominant political parties constantly 
          espouse the value of &quot;free trade,&quot; yet they pass laws that 
          preclude or destroy competition in countless industries. Take pharmaceuticals. 
          The government creates and enforces monopolies [patents] on drugs, not 
          for the benefit of taxpayers who fund the development of two-thirds 
          of the most medically significant drugs, but for corporations. As a 
          result, Bristol-Meyers-Squibb Corporation can gouge cancer victims for 
          20 times the production cost of its patented drug, Taxol. Did cancer 
          patients and citizens have an opportunity to participate in the decision 
          to give away the patent? Hell, no. We were never even informed that 
          we paid for its development!</p>
        <p>Squibb exercises its &quot;speech&quot; by spending millions for 
          paid lobbyists in Washington, who shape issues and frame debate in ways 
          that bypass the most critical questions entirely. This is why we never 
          hear ideas like &quot;let's keep public control of these drugs 
          and contract a corporation to produce it at a modest profit.&quot; 
          As long as we allow corporate wealth to translate readily into political 
          power, these abuses of the public interest will be the norm. </p>
        <p><strong>BWA: </strong>What kinds of positive alternatives to corporate 
          power do you work to create?</p>
        <p><strong>JM:</strong> Ultimately, corporate power comes from a single 
          source -- our money -- so we work to divert money and power 
          away from absentee-owned corporations and toward community businesses 
          that are locally rooted. It's tough to hide from the consequences 
          of your business decisions when they have a visible impact on your neighbors 
          and the town you live in. We show people that there are many alternatives 
          to giant corporations -- that, in most cases, local businesses 
          can provide the bulk of communities' needs and do it as well or 
          better.</p>
        <p>A few years ago we started the Boulder [Colorado] Independent Business 
          Alliance (BIBA) with the goal of helping the community to stop chainstores 
          from continuing to displace local businesses. We organized collaborative 
          campaigns funded by independent local businesses, including public education, 
          direct pooling of resources for group purchasing and marketing, and 
          political organizing to promote local policies favoring community-rooted 
          businesses. BIBA opened a lot of doors for democratic conversations 
          that included many people and organizations who would have been difficult 
          to engage through, say, POCLAD or ReclaimDemocracy.org.</p>
        <p>We consciously worked to develop a model that others could employ, 
          and last year we launched the American Independent Business Alliance 
          (AMIBA) to help other communities use it. There are four more IBAs now 
          with substantial paying memberships -- Salt Lake City, Utah; Corvallis, 
          Oregon; Austin, Texas and Santa Fe, New Mexico-- and several other 
          communities are in earlier stages of organizing. We're helping 
          to seed and connect these groups to build a national network that eventually 
          will change trends on a larger scale. </p>
        <p>I believe that owners of farms and other small businesses are essential 
          to the success of the Democracy Movement. These folks know as well as 
          anyone how destructive giant corporations can be, but not only have 
          most activists failed to forge alliances with small-business owners, 
          we tend to alienate them with broad-brush attacks on business. Sloppy 
          use of language like &quot;business interests&quot; does great harm 
          to our cause. </p>
        <p>A long-term goal of ours is to develop a powerful counterforce to entities 
          like the US Chamber of Commerce, which gains its legitimacy from thousands 
          of small member businesses, but actually exploits them to promote the 
          agenda of the transnationals that drive its agenda. We should seize 
          the label of &quot;pro-business&quot; for ourselves, making it clear 
          what kind of business we're for and why. After all, small-business 
          owners already know that &quot;corporate speech&quot; only helps those 
          big enough to hire lobbyists and public relations firms.</p>        
      <p><em>You can request a free sample of POCLAD's newsletter using the contact 
        information on their <a href="http://poclad.org/" target="_blank">website.</a></em><br />
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